Friday, November 25, 2022

Moscow, Idaho Police at DEFCON 4

 And they should be at DEFCON 1 or 2.  Here's why I think that their standard operating procedure (SOP) is far too tolerant.

I suspect that everyone wasting their time reading this hound already knows about the four University of Idaho students found stabbed to death on November 15, 2022.  Students Kaylee Goncalves, 21; Madison Mogen, 21; Xana Kernodle, 20; and Ethan Chapin, 20, were found brutally stabbed to death in their Moscow, Idaho, home.  They were all killed in their sleep.

Police have no suspects, no murder weapon, and no clues.  At least nothing that they're willing to admit to, which makes sense.  What they missed was the torture killing of a small dog and probably a cat in the same general area, along with a menacing event a short time earlier.

Locals Fear Maniac Who Skinned Neighbor'S Dog May Have Killed 4 Students 

From the article: 

The brutal murder of the students has shaken the close-knit city of Moscow. Some local investigators even link the murders to the recent skinning of a pet dog found just two miles from where the girls were last seen. The community became aware of the incident after a man named Clint Hughes posted on Facebook that his neighbor's cute little dog had been skinned like a deer. "No animal did that. Our dog is bigger and was so scared around the same time that he tore his bed into a thousand pieces. Also, our cat has been missing for a few days."

Then we also have this event:

Man In 'All-Black' Carried Out a 'Knife Attack' at University Of Idaho Weeks Before Quadruple Murder

From the article: 

The Moscow Police Department received a report that a group of students was walking between the Steam Plant parking lot (Lot #14) and the Student Recreation Center on Paradise Path and were threatened by a person with a knife,” read the alert released on September 12. Security described the suspect as a white man between 18 to 22 years of age. The suspect was wearing black clothes, a black baseball cap and was riding a mountain bike. No one was harmed during this incident. When asked if there was any connection between the knife attack and the quadruple homicide, the police did not comment.

This is a right lively place.  My point here, valid or not, is that the killing and skinning of the dog should have been investigated with a great deal more enthusiasm than it doubtlessly was.  Sure, we're all sorry about the dog and the owners (who are elderly), but this is how serial killers begin.  This particular dog wasn't the first rodeo, and it should have been investigated much more thoroughly.

Then there's the man with the knife threatening a group of students with a knife.  The birdcage liner didn't publish any specifics about the threats or the knife - a switch blade, a butterfly knife, or a Rambo style short sword?  No comment.

I'm betting that right now, the folks in Moscow, Idaho have an active serial killer in their town.  Moscow, by the bye, has a population of 25,000, is home to the University of Idaho, and is the county seat.

To give credit where credit is due, Idaho does not require a license to carry a concealed weapon, and open carry is, as far as I know, perfectly legal.  So the thing to do is start packing your gat, and get yourself a nice, noisy little dog that will sound the call to general quarters should something go sideways in the middle of the night.

Hindsight is always 20/20.  Everyone knows that, but in this case it really shows how some follow up by the local PD might easily have made a huge difference.


PioneerPreppy said...

I am pretty much positive the killer(s) are already identified by the LEOs and among the surviving room mates and the "friends" that came by who were there when the call was made the next day. I suspect either a love triangle type affair or a falling out among the roommates.

My reasoning is the confusion on just what rooms the victims were in and more importantly the mixed reports from others who were familiar with how the bed rooms were set up even a day or so prior to the murders, The fact that one room mate who was killed had moved out but came back and that one of the reported boyfriends of a survivor room mates still has his car roped off at the crime scene, or did yesterday still. Also when it was reported that the call was made from one of the surviving room mates phones but not by her that smacks of an out right lie that anyone just showed up that morning but was already there.

I just get the feeling the cops already pretty much know what and how it went down they just need some more dna type tests to verify it and perhaps a bit of he said she said confessing as well.

Probably going to be some surprised people when it all comes out and I suspect it won't be long now.

PioneerPreppy said...

Oh ya and the "we have been cleared" tattoo visit by the surviving room mates seems a bit sketchy too. For what that is worth.

Mad Jack said...

Pioneer: I think you're making some good points here, however comma:

The cause of death is unusual. Most people can get themselves worked up to shoot someone, especially at a distance. Stabbing someone to death requires a mental makeup that the vast majority of the population just doesn't have. As a case in point, when an army is at war, the enemy must be dehumanized (krauts, gooks, whatever) or most of our soldiers won't shoot them. Stabbing, especially multiple stab wounds, on just one person is odd.

The roommates didn't wake up. Two roommates asleep downstairs didn't wake up, and the little dog didn't sound the alarm. Okay, if they're passed out that might fly, but the dog would certainly start barking and wake someone. I'd like an explanation for that one.

Then the murders would have to take place quietly - so quiet that no one would wake up. I guess it's possible (four dead prove it) but someone who could actually do that would have to have some kind of special training. Wouldn't they?

The police and any involved specialists may suspect a person, but that's about as far as they're going. So, I don't know. I guess we'll see what happens, but the clock is running and the longer the killer stays free the more likely he'll stay that way.

Old NFO said...

I'm waiting to see what happens. Granted they don't usually 'do' murder investigations, but they do have help... AND kudos to them for not 'leaking' crap to the media!

The Neon Madman said...

The clamp down on information by the cops is impressive - and unfortunately, all too common. There's a whole lot that we don't know about the murders, and as far as I know, nobody's talking. If I lived anywhere near, I'd be damn worried.

On the other hand, could it have been a drug hit?

PioneerPreppy said...

A lot more additional info has come out since this was posted. Mostly all inconsistencies with the 911 call and how witness claims differ from the original LEO report. Nothing official from the cops yet though.

Mad Jack said...

Old NFO: I agree. Usually some blabbermouth spills it to an investigative reporter, and we can all read it in the morning bird cage liner. Not this time. Of course, there really aren't investigative reporters like there used to be.

Neon: I'm not so sure. I don't think there's much to know except the obvious. Yeah, a lot of things don't make sense, but I don't think there's much to be found.

I agree with you. I'd sleep with the hammers pulled back, and I wouldn't make any secret about it. As for going out, none of my family would go out alone, at night, or unarmed.

Pioneer: I'd think that most witness claims would agree with each other, but not so much this time. Still and all, the two that survived have got to be shaken up badly. Can you imagine waking up and four of your friends are dead? AND the dog didn't sound the alarm?

My money is on a serial killer who has hit the bricks and is planning his next attack.